[ASM scene] New compo rules

[ne7/napalm]

hey all,

my thoughts on the music compo are:

1) the music compos at BP work fine, why not just clone these?
2) and any sort of sized nuskool/oldskool exe music compo seems like a 
great idea!
3) plus on the tracked music front my opinion always has been whats the 
point in releasing a tracker tune if its 3-4mb in size? i mean u may as well 
release an mp3 ;) and it -is- a shame the tracked compos have died out but 
i'd argue the exe compo (especially if it is size limited) is where these 
can sit anyway...
4) a lot of people -do- care about the music compos - there were a hell of 
a lot of people at BP just sitting in front of the big screen listening to 
the tunes in all the music compos ;P

ne7

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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Jouko Karhula wrote:

> Hello,
>
> /me votes BIG TIME for any kind of tracked music visibility for Assembly :)
>
> I think that in BP the competitions were just great, with those categories:
> http://breakpoint.untergrund.net/compos_music.php
>
> It gave something for anybody:
> - Streaming music compo, so virtually anything big size stuff could be there
> (tracked, free style, whatever...)
> - Cool Oldschool compo, with those normal oldschool rules (well size limit
> was 32k for exe)
> - Newschool compo with 32k limit, so most tracked/softsynth/etc stuff could
> be here
> (having 4k limit would definitely drop off for example .it or .xm entries,
> so at least this 32k or
> even 64k would allow some creativity there as well).
>
> And stereo sound this time... finally!!! For example Amiga tunes having
> those
> channels mixed into mono did sound really horrible in last years at Assembly
> :)
>
>  - Jouko "DJ Joge" Karhula
>
> On 15/04/2008, Jussi Laakkonen <jussi.laakkonen at assembly.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a welcome change?
>>
>>   I'll let our Compocrew chime in on the details, but from my
>> perspective having more categories does not correlate with better
>> competitions, higher quality entries or with higher voter interest. I
>> think the correlation is actually negative.
>>
>>   Gloom kindly did some analysis in the thread were we discussed music
>> compos after ASMS07, and it was pretty clear that almost nobody
>> including demosceners on this list, bothered to vote in the two music
>> compos. Improving the quality of the compo thru combining the
>> artificially divided categories as well as the introducing a new sound
>> system should improve this. We are also looking to other improvements in
>> the music compo, but more about that later.
>>
>>   The Drawn themed graphics has been a bit of hit and miss. The themes
>> often have done nothing for the artists, who have had to adapt slightly
>> their already work in progress art to the themes. Sometimes it has been
>> obvious that no attention has been paid to the themes. The rule has thus
>> been quite artificial. The technical limitations in the Drawn graphics
>> were also out of touch with the realities of making "computer graphics"
>> today.
>>
>>   I've been thinking about multichannel, and perhaps the right place
>> would be to add it to oldskool music compo but with 4k limit.
>> Multichannel in the days of old was simply yet-another-streaming music
>> compo with huge samples being used. Perhaps with a size limitation it
>> could be re-introduced as a platform for oldskool music.
>>
>> Perhaps something similar (executable graphics in 4k?) could be added
>> as a platform for oldskool graphics.
>>
>>   Comments are very welcome as these are very early thoughts.
>>
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