[Oldskool] Assembly Summer 2024 tickets

chucky at thegang.nu chucky at thegang.nu
Mon Apr 29 22:15:41 EEST 2024


(lets see if try no 2 to send to the list works)

I bring my kids (with slight autism) where youngest loves shaders and 
try to do coding.

with this rules I was forced to put them in the table "next to" where I 
sit.  a situation we do not like as they would sit by my side.


sadly this is something I seen before.   the death of the scene-area at 
Dreamhack.


this will most likly be the last year I attend.



On 2024-04-29 12:38, Sauli Lehtinen wrote:
> And seems I can't use e-mail either anymore :D (already received 
> privately something which should have been in mailing list and now I 
> managed to send something from work mail)
>
> -s
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 1:35 PM Sauli Lehtinen 
> <sauli.lehtinen at frozenbyte.com> wrote:
>
>     Maybe I really should organize Jumalauta Fake Party next weekend @
>     JML discord. 99% passive online demoparty with The Compo
>     (traditional Jumalauta wild) where anything goes from demo to
>     empty textfile. No voting, no stream, no nothing - everyone gets
>     shared first place, but most importantly your kids get one of them
>     precious demozoo or pouet credits and right to buy asm demoscene
>     tickets :D
>
>     Fight the power!
>
>     On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 12:49 PM Jalmari Raippalinna
>     <jalmari.raippalinna at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Due to this we just bought 4 premium tickets for my family and
>         my retro computers, just hoping there aren't some FPS kids
>         screaming their heads off just for content. Nobody in our
>         group holds real interest in esports and we are there for
>         demos. Demoscene seating area is pretty much limited to those
>         who have the privilege of still touring parties alone.
>
>         -Jalava / Konvergence
>
>
>
>
>         On Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 07:17 Timo Kurppa,
>         <timotapiokurppa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             Hey everyone.
>
>             I think this new rule that doesn’t allow more than one
>             demoscene place for each ”real” demoscener is quite
>             problematic. Not everyone in the scene hangs out with only
>             other sceners. We have friends and family too, people we
>             might want to sit next to when we go to Assembly. And
>             nowdays the demoscene tickets are not even the cheapest
>             computer place tickets of them all, so is there really a
>             problem if some of my not (yet) demoscene qualified
>             friends would come along with me? It’s not about
>             exploiting the cheap tickets anymore. You could even rise
>             the prices little if you want. And put some more tables if
>             needed. Or is it about non-sceners/gamers ruining the
>             atmosphere, is that the problem? Remember how we used to
>             play or still do. It’s not a shame is it, at least in
>             Assembly? Or is it all about encouraging people to
>             participate in the compos to get their own demoscene
>             rights too, just to get that demoscene place next time?
>             Guess what, my friends are not encouraged by this at all,
>             not really. They will just buy a normal visitor ticket, if
>             at all, and continue to be interested about demoscene from
>             far, perhaps a little bit farther that before. So
>             Assembly, please consider changing this next year, if not
>             this year.
>
>             Timo Kurppa
>
>>             Julien Aubert <julien.aubert.mail at gmail.com> kirjoitti
>>             28.4.2024 kello 22.34:
>>
>>             
>>             Thanks Pekka and Matti on this.
>>
>>             I hope it will be OK to book in the demoscene arena. I'm
>>             there to participate and for the demoscene atmosphere.
>>             Not letting new folks sit there would feel a bit
>>             odd/exclusive.
>>
>>             At the same time, I understand not everyone should get
>>             the discounted prices. Unfortunately it is not possible
>>             to book in that area without first entering the code. But
>>             I'm happy to pay extra at the entrance or whatever would
>>             be needed to make it work?
>>
>>             Kind regards
>>             noglin
>>
>>
>>             Den sön 28 apr. 2024 kl 20:17 skrev <seven7 at europe.com>:
>>
>>                 Hey Tatu, similar situation here. I've visited
>>                 Assembly for over 20 years, and participated a lot 
>>                 the last 10 years or so, but this year I'll bring my
>>                 son (11y). He has actually made wild demos before
>>                 with his sister and his mom (
>>                 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=69776 and
>>                 https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=93923), so is
>>                 that sufficient for oldkool status? He probably won't
>>                 make any production, but I will, and do want to sit
>>                 next to him. Should I try 2 oldkool tickets or 2
>>                 gamer tickets?
>>                 Greets,
>>                 Seven/Fulcrum
>>                 *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2024 at 4:02 PM
>>                 *From:* "Julien Aubert" <julien.aubert.mail at gmail.com>
>>                 *To:* "Assembly Oldskool mailinglist"
>>                 <oldskool-list at assembly.org>
>>                 *Subject:* Re: [Oldskool] Assembly Summer 2024 tickets
>>                 Hey there again!
>>                 Please clarify:
>>                 - do we have to have tickets in demoscene area to be
>>                 allowed to participate in demo compos? (this year I
>>                 don't find any info about that, last year it says
>>                 only oldskool tickets are allowed to participate:,
>>                 https://assembly.org/en/events/summer23/tickets
>>                 <https://assembly.org/en/events/summer23/tickets>)
>>                 - I am going with my son (12y old) he wants to
>>                 participate in the beginner demo, and I want to
>>                 participate in the demo compos. I prefer we sit in
>>                 the demoscene area. By the email it seems we both
>>                 must have "oldskool" status to buy 2 tickets there?
>>                 (We applied for him today, I understand if you would
>>                 not qualify him as oldskool, but how else can we buy
>>                 a ticket for him in the demoscene arena? What's the
>>                 path for a new scener?)
>>                 - He will definitely want to game, he is 12. Is that
>>                 a problem to sit in the demoscene arena if he will
>>                 also game? If so, should we book tickets nearby
>>                 instead? will be both be allowed to participate in
>>                 compos and attend workshops if not in the demoscene
>>                 arena?
>>                 Kind regards
>>                 Julien
>>                 Den tis 23 apr. 2024 kl 14:45 skrev Julien Aubert
>>                 <julien.aubert.mail at gmail.com>:
>>
>>                     Hey Tatu!
>>                     I'm a scener (handle noglin, pouet:
>>                     https://www.pouet.net/user.php?who=102502).
>>                     I'm planning to go with my 12 year old son to
>>                     assembly, he will definitely game but he is also
>>                     planning to make a beginners demo, and I'm
>>                     planning to participate in the demoscene compos too.
>>                     I will obviously want to sit next to him, and as
>>                     close to the demoscene area as possible (and
>>                     preferably in it).
>>                     But I'm not sure how this works... it seems we
>>                     cannot both get demoscene tickets(?). I could not
>>                     find info about the ticket types but reading last
>>                     years info:
>>                     https://assembly.org/en/events/summer23/tickets
>>                     it seems only those with old school tickets can
>>                     participate? (I hope I'm misunderstanding).
>>                     What would you advise we do?
>>                     Kind regards
>>                     Julien
>>                     Den ons 10 apr. 2024 kl 20:09 skrev Tatu Patronen
>>                     <tatu.patronen at assembly.org>:
>>
>>                         Hey Sceners,
>>
>>                         Get ready for Assembly Summer 2024, taking
>>                         place from August 1st to August 4th at
>>                         Helsinki Messukeskus. Once again, we're
>>                         bringing you a fully-packed demoscene event
>>                         featuring compos and an awesome scenelounge.
>>                         Stay tuned for more details about the program
>>                         as the event draws nearer.
>>
>>                         *Ticket sales are now open! *Secure your spot
>>                         by purchasing tickets here:
>>                         https://www.tiketti.fi/tarjous using code:
>>                         *ASMDEMOS24*
>>
>>                         We're implementing this year some changes to
>>                         the tickets:
>>
>>                           * We're rebranding our tickets from
>>                             Oldskool to Demoscene. This is based on
>>                             your feedback! We welcome all
>>                             demosceners, whether you're a new scener,
>>                             or an oldskooler. You don't have to
>>                             have visited First party in 1989 or
>>                             consumed a specific beer to be considered
>>                             an oldskooler. Oldskool area will be also
>>                             renamed to Demoscene in the future.
>>                           * To gain access to this oldskool list, you
>>                             still need to apply via a form
>>                             <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdgygX7V408smyg0QO-BYYS0Giu3S99fbSMqewXOFNOe2ADAw/viewform>
>>                             and have at least one demoscene compo
>>                             entry under your name on demozoo.org
>>                             <http://demozoo.org> or pouet.net
>>                             <http://pouet.net>. Once approved, you'll
>>                             enjoy lifetime membership privileges.
>>                           * Tickets are non-transferable and strictly
>>                             for personal use. They cannot be
>>                             purchased for family or friends who are
>>                             not demoscene members, nor can they be
>>                             resold. Violation of this rule may result
>>                             in revocation of membership.
>>                           * Demoscene computer tickets now come with
>>                             an upgrade to Premium computer places,
>>                             offering access to the Premium lounge
>>                             (valued at 28 euros). The new price for a
>>                             demoscene computer place is 95
>>                             euros.Price is 54.50 euros cheaper than
>>                             normal Premium computer place.
>>                           * Entry tickets are priced at 47.50 euros
>>                             (normal entry is 55 euros).
>>
>>                         For detailed ticket information, please
>>                         visit:
>>                         https://www.tiketti.fi/assembly-summer-2024-helsingin-messukeskus-helsinki-lippuja/97766
>>                         <https://www.tiketti.fi/assembly-summer-2024-helsingin-messukeskus-helsinki-lippuja/97766>
>>
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>>                         We look forward to seeing you all at Assembly
>>                         Summer 2024!
>>
>>                         Best regards,
>>
>>                         --
>>                         Tatu Patronen
>>                         LAN MASTER
>>                         LAN Experience | Assembly Organizing
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